The Pooh Pit

[poohcarrot]

Actually, I apologise for being completely anal, but the history is wrong.

If you put in year -4.5 billion, you get the big bang. But that wasn't when the big bang happened. That was when the earth was formed.

The big bang is estimated to have occurred 13.75 billion years ago. If you put in this figure you get the two of them in a spaceship and an error 404

[poohcarrot]

I would never have thought that drinking 8 litres of Coke a day was bad for you.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ap ... ders-death

[Penfold]

The report does say that overall poor nutrition and thirty cigarettes a day might have been a contributing factor as well. I suspect the not eating part was more of a danger to her than the cola (I speak from personal experience since during my drinking days, alcohol replaced most meals (as it does with many alcoholics) and lack of proper nutrition was the main contribution to my contracting pancreatitis, major organ failure, and cardiac arrest).


*The alcohol was responsible for the liver damage, however


EDIT: Did anyone see Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me", by the way, and the effect eating nothing but McDonalds had on his health?

[poohcarrot]

Loved that movie.

[Quatermass]

Between 8-10 litres a f***ing day.

Now, I've tried to cut down on my Coke drinking over the past several years, and although I drink too much on the days that I do have Coke, it's never gone beyond, I think, 2 litres at the very most (and I haven't drunken that much in a single day for a long, long time, not since Christmas). 8-10 litres a day? I'm amazed she didn't die sooner.

But Coke's response is even more appalling. It's true that drinking too much water will kill you. But they said it in such a way that seems to say "this ain't our fault". Typical bloody corporate response.

God, but my sympathies go to her poor family. This was not a good thing to happen.

[raptornx01]

I prefer the movie "Fat Head". the one where he basically says Spurlock was full of **** and ate nothing but fast food for a month (not McD's salad but burgers and such) to prove it. and ended up loosing weight, lowering his blood pressure AND lowering his cholesterol

my favorite bit though, at the very begining of the movie he does one of those quick "OMG look at the fat people from the neck down" montages like the news always use to say how americans are getting fatter. and goes to say how it took them HOURS of shooting in three crowded locations to find enough fat people to actually get the ten seconds of footage they used.

[Jan Van Quirm]

Anything taken to that degree of excess is bound to be bad for you.

Fat does get a raw deal though - most natural fats are fine provided you don't overdo it. It's margarine and so-called low-fat spreads that are actually much worse health-wise for you (anyone remember Gold and Gold Lowest spread - absolutely loaded with trans fats and no longer on sale in the UK) before you even get onto how it tastes

As for cholesterol - your body produces it naturally and in fact you need to have it for your brain to function properly. My mum followed a really strict low cholesterol diet for years (before Gold Lowest was banned) and her body actually started to produce more cholesterol to compensate for the lack in her diet so she never went down enough on 'recommended' levels of cholesterol to be deemed healthy. Mind you, this was the same doctor who told her she had angina for 11 years when she didn't at all...

Honestly - I think if you try and eat naturally occurring foods to a modest level then you can't go far wrong so why worry about trendy food fads that weren't around during the last several millennia. Eating animals fats and even some high sugar foods kept our grandparents and earlier ancestors in relative good health and weight. You wouldn't catch a caveman avoiding pigging out on succulent fatty mammoth meat when it was in season because it was bad for him - the fat actually helped him survive in fact.

But then there's my celebrated chocolate addiction, so who am I to talk... I do always try and eat chocolate made from pure organic and dairy products however

[raptornx01]

Thats kind of his point. if being overweight doesn't cause heart disease, if eating fatty foods doesn't make you gain weight, or raise bad cholesterol, then whats the real problem? it basically comes down to nature. what IS natural for humans? meats, fruits, leafy stuff, natural fats. what isn't? grains, agricultural goods. especially wheat. basically, the food pyramid thats been shoved down kids throats is wholey wrong. the general rule of thumb is, if its something that an animal could get on its own, its good, if its something that is human grown, the product of agriculture i mean, its bad.

a modified Atkins diet is really what he's doing. eat the burger, not the bun, cut carbs. that kind of stuff. and don't OVER-EAT. its been awhile since i watched the film proper so i can't give exact numbers and such, but basically he kept on a strict diet, setting a certain amount of calories and carbs a day. its just that all of it is McDonalds, KFC and wendy's foods.

[raisindot]

my favorite bit though, at the very begining of the movie he does one of those quick "OMG look at the fat people from the neck down" montages like the news always use to say how americans are getting fatter. and goes to say how it took them HOURS of shooting in three crowded locations to find enough fat people to actually get the ten seconds of footage they used.

He must have not been trying very hard. All he would need to do is stand anywhere in Boston, considered one of the more 'fit cities' in the country, and it wouldn't take more than 30 seconds to get that ten second of footage of obese people. Go just about anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line and you'd have trouble finding THIN people to shoot.

[raptornx01]

well, its not hard to find "obese' people. throw a rock and you're likely to hit one. Considering that THIS is what is considered "obese" in this country.

[raptornx01]

And no, i'm not kidding. after the FDA or health services or whoever it was that decides these things, changed the requirement for what is considered overweight, underweight, and obese several mags went out and compared celeb stats with the new chart and found that Tom Cruise is considered obese under the new rules. thats the point where i just walk away and say screw em.

incidentally, that is also the point where they, for some unexplained reason, started seeing the number of obese people rise in this country. now thats just odd. must be all the fast food.

[Quatermass]

Tom Cruise isn't obese. He's insane.

[poohcarrot]

I could have sworn I read a post about an Invincible family here.
Where did it go?

I'm pretty sure it said somebody's grandad got blown through a wall in a gas explosion, then he hitched to hospital. His father got a concrete block dropped on his head and had a small headache. He himself has fallen off a motorbike on several occaisions and never broken a bone, just bounced.

It's gone!

How bizarre!

[Jan Van Quirm]

Or have you been at the strange ciggies again?

[poohcarrot]

I wish!

It was Stripy's post and was really interesting.